Getting Personal
In this edition of Getting Personal, Chris and Tess talk about negotiating with collection agencies, comparing mutual fund fees, lazy investing and an offer too good to be true.
Getting Personal (Marketplace)
TEXT OF GETTING PERSONAL (FIRST SEGMENT)
Tess Vigeland: Alright, it is that time in the show where we get personal, where we answer all those pesky money questions that you, the listener, have. We also call it "Stump the Farrell." Of course, our economics editor Chris Farrell is never stumped, are you Chris?
Chris Farrell: Oh, yeah. I think you got me a few times but pesky? I don't know about pesky.
Vigeland: Alright, let's go ahead and hit the phones. Our first call is from Erin in Indianapolis, Indiana. Hi Erin.
Erin: Hi, how are you?
Vigeland: We're good. How are you doing?
Erin: I'm doing great.
Vigeland: Alright, so what do you do there in Indianapolis?
Erin: I'm a radiographer.
Vigeland: A radiographer... Is that medicine, I assume?
Erin: Yeah, I take X-rays and I'm in school to get my degree to do MRIs and CTs.
Vigeland: Oh, so you're in Grad School?
Erin: Yes, I'm trying to get my Masters in Health Sciences. That's going to be my focus.
Vigeland: Well, what's your question for Chris today? Sounds like you've got everything handled.
Erin: Oh gosh, no.
Vigeland: No... Oh, OK.
Erin: Well, my life as far as financially has a lot of ups and downs through my life.
Vigeland: OK.
Erin: Well, I'm 40 years old and when I was in my 20s and 30s at times when I had really good jobs, I did really well on paying my bills and then when I didn't have really good jobs and I was in school, I didn't do very well on paying my bills, if I paid them. Some of my bills I have gone to court because they want their money, which I don't blame them; I would want mine too. So I have a couple of judgments against me for these credit card bills.
Vigeland: Credit card debt, alright.
Erin: Yes, and my question is now that I have graduated and am able to get those bills taken care of should I call those collection agencies and say I will pay this amount so I can clear it off even though I know it will be considered a charge-off?
Vigeland: What kind of money are we talking about here?
Erin: One is almost $3,000 and then the other is $5,400.
Vigeland: Do you actually want to eventually pay off the entire sum?
Erin: Well, I don't agree with the entire sum because of all the interest that's accrued. I agree with the amount that I was charged against when we went to court. That's why I was wondering if it was OK to make that phone call and see if they would just take the original amount because I could have that in a month.
Farrell: And that is perfectly OK to do. Go ahead and make that phone call, but if you're going to actually negotiate a deal, you need to get everything in writing because people can say whatever they want over the phone. They don't have to follow through.
Vigeland: Chris, if she gets an agreement with the collection company to take a lesser amount than what they say she owes, isn't that called a charge-off and then how does that reflect on her credit score?
Farrell: It will have an impact on her credit score. Now we don't have the impact that we used to have in the old days where it could be fairly dramatic but again, it will be a negative item on your file but it's not that big and frankly, I think that there's this point for everybody where they have to sort of make this certain type of decision, you know, do they want to pay off this debt or not? I tend to believe people should pay off their debts even if it does have an impact on their credit score and that is an approach that people take.
Vigeland: Alright, so Erin, do you think you'll be making that phone call?
Erin: Oh definitely, it's my debt and I want to pay it.
Vigeland: Alright, well let us know how it went.
Erin: OK.
Vigeland: Well, thanks so much for the call.
Erin: No problem.
Vigeland: Alright Chris, let's reach into the email bag and Gwen wrote in from Boston, Massachusetts. She is a 24-year-old law student and she's been inspired by the show -- yeah -- to consider switching her Roth IRA mutual fund to a socially responsible index fund like the Domini Fund. And this is a question we get a lot from folks regarding socially responsible mutual funds. She did some research to compare her current fund to the Domini Fund and she found that her current fund is a better performer on the earnings chart, but it also has higher expense ratios and higher fees -- boo.
Farrell: Hmm.
Vigeland: So her question really is is there a tool out there that will allow her to do some sort of bottom line comparison between the funds?
Farrell: Tess, I have two websites that she can visit. Now what we can compare and come up with concrete numbers are fees, the impact of fees over time. What the return is going to be -- you know, you and I could have a good conversation thinking well, I think this is the right part of the market to be in or long-term, but we have no idea.
Vigeland: No, it's up to the market.
Farrell: It's up to the market, but we can compare those fees. Now the first one is a new name. We used to call it the NASD. Now it's FINRA, right?
Vigeland: Right, and in full disclosure, I should say that they are an underwriter of this program.
Farrell: Well, they have the Mutual Fund Expense Analyzer and what's nice about this is you can compare the expenses, fees of up to three funds, you can also go to the Securities and Exchange Commission website -- sec.gov -- and at that website they have a Mutual Fund Cost Comparison Calculator. You can see the impact of fees. I think it's great, this is a great question and it's important for people to realize that these tools do exist to compare fees and just as returns compound over time we talked about that compounding effect, fees compound over time too.
TEXT OF GETTING PERSONAL (SECOND SEGMENT)
Tess Vigeland: We're back again with Getting Personal and as always, I'm joined by Chris Farrell, our personal finance expert. And Chris, we've got an email from Jeffrey in College Station, Texas. He considers himself what's called a lazy investor.
Chris Farrell: Which is a good thing because typically that means you own like index funds and you're not a very active trader, so it can be a very smart approach.
Vigeland: Well, that's exactly what he says he does, he says he uses index funds and a percentage of assets for what he hopes is a balanced portfolio, but he wants to know how often he should rebalance to these predetermined percentages. First of all, let's give a really basic definition of what lazy investing is.
Farrell: A lazy investor just wants to be smart over the long haul about how much they have in stocks, how much they have in bonds and then every once in a while check in and make sure that their fund is doing OK. So it's a real focus on -- jargon term here -- asset allocation: how much in stocks, how much in bonds. And then once you really put all your work and research into that then you're just doing some monitoring -- no buying, no selling, no trading.
Vigeland: But how about this question of how often you check it and change things?
Farrell: OK, let's say you were 50 percent stocks, 50 percent bonds -- going to keep it real simple. And just because the way the world has worked, you're now 60 percent stocks, 40 percent bonds... you want to get back to your 50/50. That's what all the rebalancing does, that's what he's asking about. So you can do it once a year. Now usually for most people, that's not enough. Some people do it quarterly and then other people are a little more active. They'll typically say, "If my asset allocation gets out of whack by 10 percent, that's when I make my move," so it's not by the calendar. It's by how much the markets are moving. If I get a 10 percent move, then I'm going to go in there and do my rebalancing.
Vigeland: Alright, let's go back to the phones. Sean is with us from beautiful Honolulu, Hawaii. How is it hanging there, Sean?
Sean: Things are going well Tess, thanks.
Vigeland: Yeah, how is the surf?
Sean: The surf is nice.
Vigeland: Can I come visit?
Sean: Absolutely.
Vigeland: Alright, well I understand that you have a question today that you're asking on behalf of your mother. Tell us a little bit about this.
Sean: Well my mom went to a conference where they told her about some business opportunities as it were, and when she told me about them, she was really excited and they sounded a little bit fishy to me.
Vigeland: Hmm.
Sean: They told her about a couple of things. One was a way to buy tax liens through, you know, their special program and another one was a way to protect your assets through something called a Charitable Remainder Trust and a Family Limited Partnership.
Vigeland: Oh my goodness.
Sean: And when I asked her some questions which I thought might be important, she said that they hadn't really mentioned any of that stuff, so it kind of bothered me.
Vigeland: Well Chris, I think instead of the Hawaiian music we're going to need to go to the sirens.
Farrell: Yeah.
Vigeland: All kinds of red flags going up here.
Farrell: All kinds, geez. I've been to a number of these conferences very similar to what your mom went to and they're not scams in the sense of being illegal, in the traditional sense that we use the word scam, but what they are, they're products that are sold but should not be bought. They're very expensive. My bottom line advice to anybody who is tempted to go to one of these seminars: stay away from them because what they're selling is "Uncle Sam won't tax you" or "Yeah, you can make 50 percent on your money off of people who have fallen into trouble with their homes" and you know, if any of these programs really worked the way that they're pitched, we'd all be rich.
Vigeland: So Sean, is this something that your mother has already made the investment?
Sean: Well, unfortunately she did make an investment in a couple of these things and they claim that they are full get your money back and as soon as I heard about it, I urged her to try and get her money back as much as she could. Hopefully she actually can.
Vigeland: Yeah, did they set any sort of time limit on getting her money back?
Sean: On one of the programs that she bought into they had a three-day time limit and I haven't talked to her since, but I believe that she tried to get her money back within that time period.
Vigeland: OK, Chris, do you know in general, legally are they required to give you your money back if you change your mind?
Farrell: What they have to do is state what is the program -- you have three days, you have a week, you have two weeks. They have a fair amount of latitude as long as it's clearly understood. Now the elderly can get some extra protections and so I think it's great that she's trying to get her money back. And here's the real thing: even if you can't get all your money back, don't put good money after bad. Just write it off, move away, walk on.
Vigeland: Alright, does that help you out Sean?
Sean: It helps me out quite a bit. I will make sure to let my mother know.
Vigeland: Alright, good luck.
Sean: Alright, thanks a lot. I appreciate it.
Vigeland: Take care, bye-bye.
Sean: OK, bye-bye.
Farrell: Thank you.
Vigeland: Alright, well unfortunately Chris those are all the questions we can take on this week's show. Chris, thanks as always for the great advice.
Farrell: Thanks Tess.













Comments
Comment | Refresh
From Sheridan, WY, 07/11/2008
Given the pain our economy as a whole and investment banks in particular are feeling, what are the chances of this pain spilling over into the commercial banking sector, specifically as to their ability to repay certificate of deposit money to investors? I realize the FDIC insures these to certain limits; my question is could there be a time when defaults swamp the FDIC to the point it would have trouble reimbursing and making CD purchasers whole?
From Fair Lawn, NJ, 07/11/2008
The government is not absolutely ruling out a bailout of Freddie Mac and/or Fannie Mae, which would ultimately make the taxpayer the creditor. Rating agencies -- who lost a lot of credibility recently for the part they played in the subprime debacle -- say that they don't THINK this would put the sovereign debt of the United States at risk of downgrading from its current triple-A rating. They cite the 1980s government bailout of the Savings and Loans, a bailout which equalled 2 to 3 percent of our Gross Domestic Product (and which we are all still paying back, while many of the responsible parties got off scot-free). Yet, a bailout of Freddie and Fannie would be at least four to five times the size of that 1980s bailout -- in the best case. As such, do you think a government takeover of one or both agencies could lead to a downgrading of our sovereign debt and if so, what would happen to individual investors' and savers' assets, and to the American economy? And how would a very cautious person redeploy assets now in order to protect them from a possible economic disaster?
From McLean, VA, 07/09/2008
I started an account with an online discount brokerage that charges a flat fee of $6 good for two trading a month. I have not been trading for the past two years, which means I am paying a carrying cost of $72 a year to keep my account open. I have no interest in unloading my small portfolio, but I don't know where to place them to avoid the monthly charges, any suggestion?
Thanks.
From Collegeville, PA, 07/08/2008
Chris, A few weeks ago you commented on the diversification risk of ESPPs. What you left out is that they are a source of free guaranteed income assuming you can buy shares below market and sell immediately. If you can stand the cash-flow hit, you should always particiapte in the ESPP.
From Oxford, MI, 07/06/2008
I no longer want to be a lazy investor. I have been a saver all of my life and I would like to become a more intelligent ivestor. I have 3 401K's that I can no longer contribute to due to being laid off. I do not expect to retire for at least 15 more years. I plan on realigning my 401K investments but need some guidance. What can I do? Are there online seminars? I am currently reading a book called "The Book of Investing Wisdom" which has really piqued my interst in wanting to understand more before making any moves.
From lake elmo, MN, 07/05/2008
Our financial advisor is suggesting that we consider Jackson's guaranteed life income stream variable annuity. We would consider putting 20 to 25% of our retirement savings into this. We are 1 yr. from retirement (ages 65 and 63). Do you consider this a good idea? Fees are 3% annually. we are currently paying 1.3% management fees.
Thank you, Sharon
From greensboro, AL, 07/04/2008
My wife and I have been married 10 years.We built a house about 8 years ago.We have no children.My wife has had 4 hip operations 2 of them total replacements,and 1 knee operation.The last hip replacement was 4 years ago, the preceding hip replacement lasted 7 years.She has a blood disorder called ITP. it causes her white & platlet count to go down.She is about to have her spleen removed in order to help this condition. She works at a nurising home as an office assistant for 9 years.Yearly income:$28,000 I drive a truck at a local company. yearly income:$34,500 With all the bills we have had to consolidate over the years (due to surgery recover time out of work) we owe about $250,000. We have no money in savings, and no form of retirement. We are not behind on anything, but if we have to be out off work again I don't know what we'll do.
Post a Comment: Please be civil, brief and relevant.
Email addresses are never displayed, but they are required to confirm your comments. All comments are moderated. Marketplace reserves the right to edit any comments on this site and to read them on the air if they are extra-interesting. Please read the Comment Guidelines before posting.
You must be 13 or over to submit information to American Public Media. The information entered into this form will not be used to send unsolicited email and will not be sold to a third party. For more information see Terms and Conditions and Privacy Policy.